[00:00:00] Adam Walker: From Susan G Komen, This is Real Pink, a podcast exploring real stories, struggles, and triumphs related to breast cancer. We’re taking the conversation from the doctor’s office to your living room.
This is Real Talk, a podcast conversation where we’re digging deep into breast cancer and the realities patients and survivors face every day. We’re talking openly and honestly about just how difficult breast cancer can be, from being diagnosed to selecting the right treatment plan, to living day to day with metastatic breast cancer and life after treatment ends.
In today’s episode, we’re hearing a surprising perspective from two breast cancer survivors, Janet Ruiz and Susie Henning both say, breast cancer made me grateful. Ladies, I can’t wait to hear you dig in because grateful is not a word we hear very often on this podcast. So let’s get started. Jana and Susie, I’d like for you to start by introducing yourselves to our listeners, share a little bit about your breast cancer diagnosis and experiences, And if there was a point when you felt you can honestly say you are grateful because of breast cancer, we’d love to hear that about that as well.
So Janet, let’s start with you and then Susie you’ll be next.
[00:01:16] Janet Ruiz: Well, thank you, first and foremost, for having me on this podcast. It is a blessing and a great opportunity to be able to raise awareness by sharing our story and using our experience, our disease as a platform to help other women.
My name is Janet Ruiz, and I was diagnosed with breast cancer December 4th, 2018. Interesting enough, I used to work for a public health, system, where we would actually give free mammogram. And I was actually, Guilty of neglecting myself for two years, I was focusing on the community, focusing on, just my world, my family, my kids and, every other involvement that I had, because I was very active in my community as, an advocate.
Well, with that being said, I didn’t have a mammogram myself for two years, and I would have to say that I’m guilty of that. And this is why it is very, important to get your mammogram because early detection, even though it sounds like this goofy slogan or people are tired of hearing it, I’m not going to get tired of saying it early detection saves lives.
And had I done my mammogram, those, prior to years, I probably wouldn’t have to go through the chemotherapy that I went through. I wouldn’t have to go through those health challenges and the expensive recovery, but needless to say, still early detection saves lives because, as I said, I was diagnosed with stage
two breast cancer and thank God that I did have that mammogram done because they detected, that I had breast cancer and I was able to do the mammogram.
My therapy, I didn’t need radiation because it was detected at an early stage, but I did have to go through chemo and I had to go through two different regimens, I had to go through an aggressive chemo and then my regimen was switched to a different chemotherapy, but with that being said, I ended up having neuropathy, congestive heart failure during, COVID and, all of the good stuff that was occurring.
So, I had all the scenes, cancer, COVID, you name it, congestive heart failure, everything that had to do with this, that was me. So with that being said, I feel that I was blessed and it truly was a blessing because I use cancer as my platforms and just recently I started an organization called Her2CancerLive because I ended up having two types of cancer.
I had Her2 negative and Her2 positive and I was first diagnosed with Her2 negative. And I was excited because I said, Oh, I don’t have to go through chemotherapy and radiation. Well, as I mentioned, and as we’re in the holiday season. So I didn’t get the second news until maybe a week and a half after getting the first diagnosis.
And they’re like, no, you have her2 positive. So you have to go through chemotherapy. With that being said, I felt that it was a blessing because I have a passion for kids and seniors and my hair, even though it’s shoulder length now, my hair was to my waistline, I was blessed to be able to donate my hair to children.
To waste for kids, for those children that were battling the same disease, it just started with that blessing. I said, what can I do good? What, how can I use this, blessings, cancer was a blessing because it allowed me to help other women and allow me to help children.
And, I just look at it like a great opportunity. And here I am today, 2024 telling the story and being able to share yours, hear your story as well, Susie. But, cancer can be and I think when people hear the word cancer, they get like that thought in their head like, oh, I’m going to die.
Well, I didn’t have time to think about that because I went into like crazy mode. I went home to see how many sick days I had left, how much money was in my bank account, how is my insurance going to cover this, but thank the Lord. I don’t know if I’m allowed to say this and if it needs to be edited, fine.
But thank the Lord. And thanks to my insurance plan, medical mutual. I walked away from cancer debt free. Like I didn’t owe anything. Like all of my coverage was paid. As we know, people go through bankruptcy and go through a lot of finance, so I was blessed. So there were great things. My son got, recruited to play professional basketball in Puerto Rico.
I got picked to do a, like a series where they surprised him. He was the rookie player and they brought me in shell gas station, sponsors. And, I had a Hollywood moment, even though I was bald. I have these cameras following me. They brought me up at halftime. My son got drafted.
That’s the word. He got drafted to play professional basketball in Puerto Rico. And this is something that we worked for our lives and I couldn’t go. So here I am doing chemo and I’m like, go live your life. You don’t live your dream. Do what you got to do. And he wins. And then I got picked by show, as a celebrity star, because that’s how I felt.
They brought me at halftime. He didn’t know I was in Puerto Rico. All these cameras were on me, here I am bald and shining. And it was surprising, he was a rookie player that got chosen because I had cancer. And if that’s what made them pick me, then hallelujah, I was blessed.
So I’m happy to be here. I have, four grandchildren and I got to see my daughter get married, my son, graduated college. I have my youngest now in, in college. So these are great things, there is life after cancer. There’s wonderful opportunities, and I’m sure I’m anxious to hear your story, Susie, because, you’re part of my team, you’re part of the women’s group, you’re a breast cancer survivor, and, how was your experience? What did you go through?
[00:07:12] Sue Henning: In some ways, our stories are similar. I had skipped my mammogram in 2011. Same thing, I just, life was busy, and then when I went for my mammogram, so what happened basically, long story short, is I was supposed to leave on October 18th for a mission trip to South Korea with a friend.
And Getting ready that week I had gotten the letter that I was, overdue for a mammogram so that while I’ll just do it, so I did it in September of 2012. And I got the usual letter back that said, you need to come back for, an ultrasound, because you’re, it’s breast tissue.
And so I scheduled that the scary. So I, but I’d gotten those every year. So I was like, okay. So I scheduled that before the day I left and, or was planning to leave and I was going to get my nails done, get my ultrasound, finish packing. No big
deal. And so I went that morning to get the ultrasound and as I’m still laying there on the table from the ultrasound, the radiologist came in. She was just the sweetest ever. It was the same place I’d always gone to, but she was, she seemed new. I’d never seen her before. And she said, I’m so sorry, but I am like 99 percent sure that we see cancer. And so I just immediately shock, just total shock.
And so they scheduled the biopsy for that afternoon. So I called the friend that I was supposed to go to South Korea with and I said, I need you here now, and she was a very good friend of mine. So she drove over and we went to lunch and didn’t really eat lunch and then we went back for the biopsy and she was in the dressing room waiting for me.
And she said, I knew when you walked in that it was a bad answer. And they biopsied a couple of places in my right breast that day. And then, I just decided not to go on the trip. It was just too emotional. It was just, there was just no way I wanted to leave my family. I wanted to be with my family.
My kids were 9 and 12 at the time. I’m sorry, 12 and 15 at the time. And my husband was on his way home from a business trip to be with the kids the whole next week since I was going to be out of the country. And one thing I’m very grateful is travel insurance because I was able to get back everything I had spent to go to South Korea.
So I always recommend travel insurance to people. It paid off big time. And so they called me on October 19th, which just happened to be our anniversary, and told me that they had found cancer in the right breast where they’d done the biopsy. So after a consultation, I had to find an oncologist and all of that and a surgeon, we decided to do a double mastectomy.
Just because when I had an MRI, Just all kinds of calcifications lit up. And it’s if I just do one side. Then I’m just going to be watching that other side every six months. And with consultation with the doctors, my husband, we decided to go ahead and do, schedule the double mastectomy.
So I had that the day before Thanksgiving in November of 2012 and, come to find out they found after, as they were removing the breast tissue, found another area of cancer in the left side that didn’t show up on the ultrasound, the MRI, nothing, completely different. It ended up being stage 2, but thankfully, another thing I’m super grateful for is the Oncotype DX, OncoDX test, I may have the wording wrong, but, It took my tissue and analyzed it, and like anything above a, I can’t remember the exact numbers, a 10 or so, you probably needed chemo, or above a 16 I think it was.
And that there was a high likelihood of recurrence, so in the chemo and then anything below, a lower score was like, not likely to reoccur. Hopefully, chemo would really not have any effect on it. And it was estrogen positive cancer. But, so we prayed for something below 10 just to be on the safe side.
And it was a six. So I was, yes, I was so grateful that, I did not have to do chemo, but I did do eight years of tamoxifen and then two more years on anastrozole since I was post menopausal. And, it just, it changed our family in a lot of ways. The kids were that middle school age 12 and 15 going through a lot of stuff.
So they were very scared, but, they were attending a small private school at the time. And the school, and I was working there, the school literally just surrounded us with love and, brought them home from practices. So I didn’t have to drive back up there. I was off all the way from Thanksgiving till January after, the school went back after Christmas and they didn’t even charge me paid time off or sick time they just gave it to and so they were like anything you need. So the school, the friends, the neighbors, I’m just so grateful. And actually one of the things I’m grateful for is getting closer to those people and closer to our neighbors. We lived in a neighborhood in Texas that was spread out and we knew each other, But I think I might have been the first crisis in the neighborhood, it was a newer neighborhood.
And so those, families just really surrounded us.
[00:12:36] Janet Ruiz: Way to break the ice.
[00:12:36] Sue Henning: Yeah, I know, really. I will always be grateful for those ladies. And, so that’s really my story. I have been, cancer free since. And I remember my oncologist telling me the first time I met with her, I asked her, I said, when do you start counting yourself as a survivor?
Is it after surgery? Is it after chemo? Is it after you’ve gotten an all clear, no evidence of disease kind of report, she’s from the day you’re diagnosed, you consider yourself a survivor. So I count October 17th from that day. I first heard the word.
[00:13:11] Janet Ruiz: So did you, so congratulations to you, too.
And thank you for sharing that story. And we do have a lot of similarities. the son that got drafted to play Puerto Rico is the son that took me to my doctor’s appointment the day that I was given the news. And I remember him being
behind me. I had my back turned to him and I worked at the hospital and as I mentioned, I was an advocate.
That was my position. The nurse had her back turned to me and when she turned around to give me the news, I could just see it in her face, like the sadness, because And I have permission to say her name, she turned around and she had that sad look on her face and I immediately jumped into advocacy mode.
I looked at her and I knew the news. My back was turned to my son. So I cannot tell you what he saw or his reaction. But when she turned around and she said, Oh, I’m so sorry. She just said, Oh, I’m sorry. I didn’t even let her finish. I said, and is it harder for you to tell your co workers that it isn’t?
You just jump into advocacy mode all the time. I can’t explain it. It was just natural responses. And, I gathered my kids that afternoon, that evening, at my kitchen table and told them the news. And as I said, December 4th, we’re like 21 days from Christmas. And Christmas is my favorite holiday. And I remember them saying, well, we’re going to plan a Christmas party.
We’re going to do the biggest one. And we did. We celebrated Christmas. And it was a pajama party and everybody came with their Christmas pajamas. And it was super nice because a week after that I was, having, the haircutting, I had a haircutting party.
[00:15:01] Sue Henning: Oh wow.
[00:15:02] Janet Ruiz: I’ll call it weird, but these were things that helped me cope and I just tell women to figure out what helps you cope and, find a blessing to it.
And I remember going to my company Christmas party and I’m giggling because I’m like actually living the moment in my head. My daughter was my partner for the Christmas party and a few of my coworkers were like circled or gathered in one of the tables at the party. And I said something and my daughter had told me before, Hey, whatever happens, always blame it on breast cancer, and so we made a joke and I said something and I think I was late and pork were circled at a table and I said, I’m so sorry I’m late. And my daughter goes, blame it on breasts. I tell you to blame it on breast cancer and I looked at her and I looked at my co workers because they were late. They’re willing to help me because they didn’t know the news yet.
So we’re Spanish, non Spanish speaking. And I looked at my daughter and we are giggling our life away, like nonstop. Giggles. And I said, but we’re giggling while they’re still like, What’s going on? Yeah. Like you have to giggle about this. I don’t know about you, Susie, I needed one. I had to have a mastectomy and I decided as well to do a double mastectomy.
Everyone has a choice and women need to understand you have a choice. You have a say in your body and you determine, but I decided to do a double mastectomy because I didn’t want cancer to come back and go to the other side or I don’t want that worry. And like you said, you’re a survivor. Once once you go through the chemotherapy, I rang that bell on my birthday.
So I relived. Yeah, it was just the way God allowed it, to happen was just a blessing. And that’s why I feel that I had life lessons to learn. I don’t know about you, Suzie, but Oh yes, It made me realize to put myself first, to prioritize myself to slow down a little bit. I haven’t slow down enough, I have a good friend that I’ve just traveled with to, she goes, you got to bring it down.
No, slow down. I said, I don’t have time to slow down. I survived cancer. I want to live. So I had the double mastectomy, I turned around and hugged my son and embraced him. And I remember gathering my family, but from then on I said, you have to live. I can’t let cancer consume me, right?
Because I don’t know about you, but I just feel like cancer is mental. Sometimes you just, it takes over your life. And some people like bring themselves down. I think I charged up my batteries more and I started traveling.
[00:17:46] Sue Henning: Yeah. My oncologist, that was another thing she told me, was your attitude is half the battle, And so I just grasped onto that and, like you said, so many little things happened along the way that you look back and you’re very grateful for, but I was so grateful for even at the time, just like you had your coworker there. When the, I guess she, she was the advocate, the nurse advocate went after they gave me the news.
They’re like, well, we need you to go talk to so and I sat there just in shock. And, thankfully the friend that was with me was a nurse as well. So she could interpret a lot of things for me, but, she was just giving me business cards in the next steps, but I looked at her, I’m like, I know you, I had never seen her in this office before, but I’m like, I know you.
She was in a mom’s group that I was in when my kids were little, like toddlers. And I knew her from then and I hadn’t seen her in years because the kids, we’d outgrown that mom group and I am so thankful she was there because it just
gave me that feeling of peace that, okay, she knows me, she remembers me, I remember her and it was like having a friend there to give you that news, but, I just, I look back and there’s so many little things like that to be grateful for and that, one of the things that people talk about is it okay to be real and raw, just like you were, and I’m like, absolutely.
When I went back to work, people were tiptoeing around me. And, a teacher would look at me like, Oh, I’m so sorry. And I’m like, I know, exactly. I’m like, I have a lot of living to do and I’m going to be grateful. And I think one of the things I’m most grateful for, it did create my connection to Komen, serving on the board and when there were, a little bit of a different structure back then, but I was on the board of the Fort Worth Komen group and, I would have never had that opportunity to take, the opportunities through Komen or the, what’s the word I’m looking for?
All the resources from Komen to where I lived outside of Fort Worth. It was like, I now have a voice for Parker County where we lived, that can help other moms. And so one of the things we did was started, we started having a pink out at school during volleyball season. And I had, when I was selling the t shirts, I had multiple moms come up to me and say, Oh, this reminds me to go get my mammogram.
And I’m like, this is what it’s all about. That’s right. Just like you said, early detection, and that’s my soapbox, too. And I would have never felt that way, I would have not had this voice had this not have happened. And to reach other women.
[00:20:23] Janet Ruiz: Yeah, you’re a walking billboard.
Your story’s phenomenal. Your kids were young. I bet they were scared. And there’s still a lot of things that you probably don’t know that they thought about when they laid in bed. But guess what? You, show them. And, you’ve inspired them in a different way because we raised our children, but we never knew that we had to raise them, learning about this deadly disease.
My grandson was young, he didn’t understand cancer, my daughter, I don’t know my daughter, myself, a teddy bear, sometimes I forget things, but I will say that, I, went to a friend’s restaurant. And him and I had a mini fallout, like a little, just 12 years ago, Susie.
And when I went to the restaurant, he covered the bill and then he started to say, Hey, do you remember that argument that we had? I said, stop right there. I know what you’re doing. You are trying to clear your conscience because you’re
going to pass away. And he wanted to apologize to me, incident that occurred 10 years ago.
And I said, You stop right there. I know what you’re doing. You think you want to say sorry. I said, no, That’s over and done with. the way people think I, my community, I wasn’t not was I’m involved in politics. I’m an advocate. I was working in the hospital. I was involved in everything.
And my community really supported me. I was receiving flowers, gifts. Like it was always like a knock on my door from UPS. It became overwhelming and, then I met, I was asked to encourage another woman who had cancer, which I haven’t met her in person, but her and I would speak a lot on the phone.
And this reminds me, Susie, that I need to reach out to her and I need to take the drive and meet her. She lives like two hours from here. But someone said to me, you’re so positive, can you talk to such and her and I will crack up every night on stories. And she had this favorite shampoo and her aunt sent her like a case of the shampoo and she said, Jenny, I’m bald.
I don’t know why my aunt sent me all of this. I said, have faith, you’re just going to grow. And I remember packing for a trip to Puerto Rico to see my son. And I had this huge suitcase. I’m bald, Susie. And I said to myself, Oh my God. I don’t have room for my hairdryer. Where am I going to put my blower?
[00:22:50] Janet Ruiz: And I moved things around in my, suitcase. When I grabbed my blow dryer, I started hiking up and I said, it was just the fact that, mentally things happen. And I want to encourage women to laugh about it the way you and I are laughing about it, because it is funny. Don’t sit there and say, don’t, some women would probably sit there and cry, and you can’t do that.
A good friend of mine, his name is Ishmael. I love him very much. And he’s, he’s like a brother to me. He’s a best friend and he lives in Florida. And he called me one day before my haircutting party and he said, Janet, I have a question for you. And it was like seven o’clock in the morning.
I was having a hair in front of channel three news, which, they were awesome. We wanted to raise awareness for women. And like I said, I was donating my hair for kids because I know that there’s a lot of bullying out there and I can imagine kids with cancer with, without the hair, they’d probably get bullied more.
So I wanted to bless someone with my hair. So he calls me at seven o’clock in the morning. He goes, he’s got a soft spoken voice. He goes, Jenny. I have a question for you. I said, sure, what is it? He goes, what if you have a cone head? What are you going to do? I said, walk around with a cone head. He goes, well, I’m encouraging you not to cry.
So crying is not going to cure cancer and laughing is good for you. So if you feel that you’re going to cry, just giggle and think of something funny. And that’s how I took cancer. I laughed a lot because I was doing a lot of traveling and people will come up. To me and say, Hey, I love your hair. I love your haircut.
When it was growing short, I said, I’m bald. I don’t have hair. There was a time when a woman came up and she’s bald. And bald was like a fashion, it was a fashion statement. So you really can tell, If you had cancer, but I did lose my lashes and I said, Oh my God, I didn’t have the look until I lost lashes.
You know what I mean?
[00:24:53] Sue Henning: Yeah.
[00:24:54] Janet Ruiz: So I was at the airport and the lady goes, Oh, I love your hair. I said, I love yours too as well. She said, yes, but mine was, mine’s was by choice. Yours wasn’t. I said, you’re wrong. Mine’s was by choice. did you come across people that made goofy, I call them goofy comments, like Out of line, you just gotta have a quick punchline.
Yeah. Yeah. Not too much.
[00:25:17] Sue Henning: I think because I didn’t have to go through chemo and I didn’t go through some of that. A lot of people didn’t even know. I wasn’t, keeping it quiet or anything, but, if you weren’t at my children’s school where I worked or part of the family or the neighborhood, you just probably didn’t know.
I did keep, people updated online and stuff, but yeah, I just, I think one of the things I’m most grateful for, and I love that people know, though, that they can reach out to me. I received a text this morning from a friend in Texas whose co worker at 35 years old has been diagnosed with breast cancer with two small kids.
One of my very best friends, our sons are incredibly best friends. she was diagnosed a couple of summers ago with stage 4 breast cancer. Is ago with stage 4 breast cancer.
, I totally see, like, I said, faith is an important part of my story.
And I see God’s hand from placing that nurse that was there that I was in a mom’s group with when the kids were toddlers. All the way to now being able to do this and being able to still help people, what is this 12 years later? It’s this is something that’s going to be a part of my life.
And like you said, don’t just, I did have my tears. I had my tears that day. I had my tears, when the second biopsy came back, I remember calling my mom, my parents who lived out of state. And I was, my mom’s, we’re on our way, she made sure, to help us, but, there, there were tears in that initial shock, mostly.
And then you just, you do, you get okay, we’re going to take this. This is the, what we’re in now. And we’re going to do what we have to do to heal. And then we’re going to help others. And so I would not have these opportunities to help other women along the way or their families, and my kids, even, my daughter now is 20.
And, she’s able to talk to people about it, here’s what my experience was like. And then she knows that she now has a higher risk because I’ve had it. And then her paternal grandmother has had breast cancer. So where I had no risk in my family, but, it just totally changes your conversations with other people.
And it makes you so grateful to be able to help others. We always know that it makes you feel good to help others, but when you can help others in such specific ways with your advocacy and your public profile, where I am more, behind the scenes quieter type person, I’m not out in the public that much, but people know they can text me anytime.
And they can give my name out, they can give my number out, and I’m just so grateful for those opportunities because my biggest thing is I want to prevent those that are like my daughter’s age, in their 20s, and coming behind her. I hope they never have to deal with this. I hope we have a cure.
I pray we have a cure. And I just, I just don’t want them to have to go through this.
[00:28:26] Janet Ruiz: It’s scary because Susie, you’re absolutely right. You’re a hero, you’re a warrior and God chose you. Like you said, this is all faith that chose you. And now you get to tell your story and help one woman at a time.
And that’s what we can do is share a story and be advocates out there and just help one woman and then that woman will help another. And this is amazing, domino effect. I’m very grateful for that. It’s like a club. There were people that would tell me, Hey, I’m praying for you. Hey, I don’t usually pray now.
I’m praying. I know you’re a woman of faith, so I’m praying. So just being able to hear people say that they were out there praying and that our illness helped others, build their faith. And help others get their mammograms. And, we were the chosen, to advocate.
[00:29:13] Adam Walker: I want to jump back in with one, one last question for you.
obviously been listening and you’re helping a lot of people just by having this conversation openly and sharing it, with all of us that, that get to benefit and, I’m very appreciative of that. You’ve shared your experiences. I’m wondering, for the listener, what that might be listening to this conversation and thinking, I’ll never be grateful.
I had breast cancer. What would you want them to know?
[00:29:42] Sue Henning: I would say I can understand that. I wish I’d never had it. But you’re stronger than you think you are. And just Once you allow the people to help you, you will be so grateful for those stronger relationships and you’ll be so thankful for the strengths that you’ve found within yourself that you didn’t know you had.
[00:30:10] Adam Walker: I love that. I love that. Janet, how about you?
[00:30:15] Janet Ruiz: So I worked in a public hospital at the time. When I would do chemo, I would see, women that I know were alone or the family was away. Susie says something earlier that she was blessed that the nurse, she knew the nurse or the nurse was there, with my foundation, we’re giving free mammograms where we walk the member to the mobile unit, to give them strength.
But, we’ve laughed here, Susie, and we’ve shared great stories of blessings, but I remember my horrible day of a bad chemo, it’s when I had I came home and I was sick and I was so weak and I wasn’t this energized individual and I was like, Oh, it knocked me down. And I remember, asking my son, my youngest son.
I said, I need you in the room. I’m weak. Some socks on my feet. I felt cold. I felt chills. I, and I was going through all those stages where I thought this is a, this is going to be, I’m not down, I got back up. And I asked my son to put my hand up in the air. And I, I praise God.
And I just want to tell women that it is very difficult. We laughed here, we giggled, we share the good stuff. There are bad times, but during that bad time is when you have to seek. Support or look to faith, whatever it is, everyone has something that they believe in and, hold on to whatever good memory you have of the world and just fight.
Those slogans are there because they’re real fight. All you can do is, it’s funny because we look at them, but really it’s about fighting and, cancer will give you strength that you never thought you had. And as a woman, we’re the children, we’re the children of bare children. We’re the children to have breast cancer.
But guess what? You are stronger than cancer and you can beat it and just find a support group, find someone at the hospital, find someone at your church or find strength within you and build something stronger than you’ve ever imagined. And you will be this new woman who will be out there like us, sharing the story, talking to someone else.
Because you’re chosen to carry this torch so you can help the next woman out there. And that’s just my word of encouragement. Fight, and get that strength that you don’t think you have. Look at Susie, Susie says she’s not a public speaker. And look what you’re doing now, Susie, guess what?
You’re, a national public speaker today because we reach women in all ranges. God chooses us for whatever reason it is, only you know why you’re the chosen.
[00:32:55] Adam Walker: Yeah, that’s good advice. That’s good advice. Well, Janet, Susie, I appreciate you sharing the inspiration of your stories and your just amazing attitude towards life.
And thank you for joining us on the show today.
[00:33:11] Sue Henning: Thank you for having me.
[00:33:12] Janet Ruiz: Thank you so much.
[00:33:13] Adam Walker: Thanks for listening to Real Pink, a weekly podcast by Susan G Komen. For more episodes, visit realpink.komen.org and for more on breast cancer, visit komen.org. Make sure to check out @SusanGKomen on
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